Ran the direct-link spike on the live graph (PipeWire 1.6.8, WirePlumber 0.5.15). Fan-out carries full-level audio for paplay, mpv and VLC while the application keeps its existing speaker link; WirePlumber does not reap foreign links across default-sink switch, suspend/resume or 100s steady state; and non-lingering links are destroyed automatically when their owning connection is SIGKILLed. The decisive result is that destroying the capture sink mid-share left the application playing to its speakers undisturbed, so capture-side failure degrades to "not captured" rather than breaking the user's audio. That is the property the move-based design had to work hard to approximate. Records what the spike does not prove: fidelity beyond signal presence, daemon restart, quantum perturbation, and exclusive/passthrough streams. The capture null sink is still pactl-owned, so Stop Share continues to leak a module every time and the graceful-stop work is still owed. Eligibility becomes a broad guarded selector rather than a narrow allowlist, since copying no longer risks disturbing the source. Option A and its attendant cleanup, restore and output-switch machinery are retained for the record but are no longer the plan. A v3 rewrite is owed once the AEC playback-leg identity is settled. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.8 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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# Design v2: whole-desktop screen-share audio without self-echo
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**Status:** proposal, not implemented. v2 supersedes v1 after adversarial review.
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**Date:** 2026-07-20 (v1: 2026-07-19)
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**Origin:** Joe's suggestion — "whitelist all audio except audio coming from peerspeak."
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**Review history:** v1 reviewed by Codex (gpt-5.6-sol, high) —
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`~/Documents/handoff-docs/Codex/peerspeak/review-2026-07-19-audio-exclusion-design.md`.
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Verdict: "not sound enough to implement as written," 4 release blockers, all
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independently verified against source and all correct. v2 is a redesign, not a patch.
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**Scope:** new capture mode in pixelpass `src/host/pipeline.rs` + `src/host/audio.rs`;
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playback tagging and a graceful-stop protocol in peerspeak.
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> **⚠️ This document is still gated on empirical data.** Section 10 lists the
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> observations that must exist before any of this is implemented. Every claim below
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> marked **OPEN-Q** is a guess with a named experiment attached, not a decision.
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> No `pw-dump` of this machine's graph has been captured yet.
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---
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## 1. The problem
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A sharer using whole-desktop audio sends their entire output mix to viewers. That mix
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necessarily includes peerspeak's own playback — remote peers' voices, remote
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screen-share audio — so viewers hear themselves.
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`--strict-audio` solved this for *per-app* mode by refusing to mirror the desktop at
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all. Whole-desktop mode has no equivalent, so a sharer today chooses between echo and
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sharing exactly one app's audio.
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Joe's ask is the missing third option: **share the desktop, minus peerspeak.**
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## 2. Feasibility, and the correct framing
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PipeWire has no capture-side filter. A monitor port carries an already-summed signal;
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once peerspeak's output is in that mix it cannot be subtracted out. What PipeWire does
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provide is **routing**: every playback stream is a node whose sink target can be
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reassigned at runtime.
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So the feature is built by constructing a sink that only eligible streams feed, and
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capturing that. Same observable behaviour, entirely different mechanism.
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This is **not** echo cancellation. `src/audio/echo_cancel.rs` addresses the microphone
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path, where coupling is acoustic and needs adaptive cancellation. Here the signals
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never need to be mixed at all.
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**Correction from v1:** v1 called the separation "exact and lossless." That was an
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overclaim. The *membership* of the constructed mix is exact — peerspeak's audio is
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never summed in. The *delivered audio* is not lossless: pixelpass downmixes to 48 kHz
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stereo and AAC-encodes at 128 kbps (`pixelpass/src/host/pipeline.rs:303-324`), and the
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null-sink/loopback stages may resample streams whose layout or clock differs.
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## 3. What actually exists today (v1 got this wrong)
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**v1's premise was false.** v1 claimed whole-desktop capture already loads
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`@DEFAULT_SINK@.monitor → pixelpass_capture_<pid>` and that the feature is "the
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existing per-app path with an inverted predicate." It is not.
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`setup_audio` (`pixelpass/src/host/pipeline.rs:121-140`) activates `Routing` **only**
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when `--app` is set or `PIXELPASS_AUDIO_VIA_NULL_SINK` is set (a dogfood path, per its
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own comment). peerspeak's no-app argv is exactly `--host --output json`
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(`peerspeak/src/screenshare/mod.rs:135-165`). Normal whole-desktop capture therefore
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**bypasses `Routing` entirely** and hands the real default monitor to `pulsesrc`.
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What `Routing::start` actually does (`pixelpass/src/host/audio.rs:65-212`):
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| Piece | Condition |
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| --- | --- |
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| `module-null-sink pixelpass_capture_<pid>` | always, when `Routing` runs at all |
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| `module-loopback @DEFAULT_SINK@.monitor → capture` | skipped only when `--app` **and** `--strict-audio` |
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| `StreamRouter` (libpipewire thread) | only when `opts.app` is `Some` |
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| local-monitor `capture.monitor → @DEFAULT_SINK@` | loaded on `FirstRoutedStream`, unloaded on `LastRoutedStreamGone` |
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So this feature needs a **new capture mode in `pipeline.rs`**, plus a substantially
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new router. It is not a predicate inversion. v1's "every primitive already exists"
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claim is withdrawn.
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Two further corrections to v1's model of the existing router:
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- `StreamRouter` subscribes to registry global-add/global-remove only
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(`audio.rs:523-560`). It does not bind nodes or watch properties. v1's risk 4
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("pavucontrol overrides get re-fought") is **backwards** — a manual move generates no
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new global-add, so the override currently wins until the node is destroyed. If the
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new mode must enforce routing continuously, that is new behaviour with new loop-
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prevention requirements.
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- `try_flush` records *intent*, not success (`audio.rs:642-655`): it ignores
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`Metadata::set_property`'s return and appends every pending ID to `routed_node_ids`
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regardless. There is no link-state confirmation. Any status this feature surfaces to
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the user inherits that dishonesty unless it is fixed.
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## 4. The core redesign: ownership by inherited tag, not by PID
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v1 identified peerspeak's audio by `application.process.id`. Codex showed that fails in
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three separate ways, and it fails for a common reason: **PID is a property of a process,
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but what we need to identify is a *stream's owner*, and peerspeak's audio is emitted by
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processes and modules it does not run inside.**
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Concretely, PID-matching misses:
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1. **The AEC playback leg.** `module-echo-cancel` is loaded via pactl
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(`peerspeak/src/audio/echo_cancel.rs:83-94`) and its virtual-sink→speaker playback
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stream lives in `pipewire-pulse`, not peerspeak. An inverted predicate would route
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*remote call audio* into the capture — the exact thing the feature removes.
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2. **The media player.** `spawn_player` launches mpv/VLC as a detached child with
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`kill_on_drop(false)` (`peerspeak/src/screenshare/mod.rs:761`). Excluding the
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pixelpass *viewer* PID excludes a tunnel process that plays nothing.
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3. **Notification sounds.** `pw-play`/`paplay`/`aplay` children (`src/notify.rs:265`).
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Plus PID is not authoritative in general: PipeWire reports `application.process.id` as
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the **pipewire-pulse PID** for Pulse-emulated clients, and the property can be absent or
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overridden.
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### 4.1 The proposal
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**peerspeak tags every stream it owns, at creation, and the router excludes by tag.**
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The lever that makes this cheap: every peerspeak-owned playback path is a
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`Command::new(…)` spawn, so a tag can be *inherited through the environment*.
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| Owner | Mechanism |
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| --- | --- |
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| native call playback (`src/audio/pipewire_impl.rs:374-388`) | set the tag directly in the stream's property dict |
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| mpv / VLC (`src/screenshare/mod.rs:761`) | `.env("PIPEWIRE_PROPS", …)` / `PULSE_PROP` on the `Command` |
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| `pw-play` / `paplay` / `aplay` (`src/notify.rs:265`) | same |
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| `module-echo-cancel` legs | pass properties at `pactl load-module`, **OPEN-Q 3** |
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This dissolves blockers 2 and 3 instead of patching them. No live PID channel, no
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PID-reuse hazard, no re-evaluation of already-existing nodes when a PID is retired.
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**Proposed tag:** a single stable key, e.g. `peerspeak.owned=1`. Naming is the user's
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call (§11). Verified working on this machine for all three spawned-child cases —
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see §10.1.
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**The tag is a correctness mechanism, not a security boundary.** Any same-user client
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can set `peerspeak.owned=1` and opt itself out of capture; a child can also sanitize its
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environment. PipeWire is explicit that only `pipewire.*` properties are suitable for
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security decisions. That is acceptable here — the threat model is "don't echo the
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user's own call back at them," not "defend against a hostile local process." It must be
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stated rather than assumed. A related hazard worth handling: a stable boolean **leaks
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into grandchildren**, so anything mpv or VLC itself spawns inherits the exemption.
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### 4.2 Fail closed: eligibility, not exclusion
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Even with perfect tagging, "route everything that isn't ours" sweeps in third-party
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infrastructure: other apps' loopbacks, filter-chains, virtual-sink forwarders, tunnel
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sinks, combine-sinks, DSP bridges. Moving those can create cycles, bypass DSP, or break
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an unrelated application's graph.
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**So the predicate is an allowlist, not a denylist.** Route a node only if it is
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positively identified as ordinary end-user application playback. Anything unrecognized
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is **left alone and reported as not-captured**, never optimistically moved.
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That inverts the failure mode from "we broke your audio graph" to "that app's audio
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didn't make it into the share," which is recoverable and visible.
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The exact property set defining "ordinary application playback" **cannot be written
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today** — it depends on what real nodes look like on this machine. Candidates to
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evaluate from a `pw-dump`: `node.passive`, `node.virtual`, `media.class`, `media.role`,
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`client.id` → Client object ownership, presence of a `pipewire.sec.pid`,
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`node.dont-move`. **OPEN-Q 1.**
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### 4.3 The self-match, corrected
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pixelpass's own local-monitor loopback (`capture.monitor → @DEFAULT_SINK@`) has a
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playback half that appears as a `Stream/Output/Audio` node. An unqualified predicate
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selects it and points it back at the capture sink — an immediate feedback topology.
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v1 proposed tagging it via `source_output_properties=`. **That is the wrong half.**
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`source_output_properties` applies to the capture/source-output leg; the self-matching
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node is the sink-input/playback leg. Correct form:
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```
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sink_input_properties=node.name=pixelpass_local_monitor_<host-id> sink_dont_move=true
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```
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`sink_dont_move=true` is defense in depth: session policy refuses the move even if the
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predicate regresses. Do **not** fall back to matching a generic `loopback.*` shape —
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that either catches unrelated loopbacks or misses a second pixelpass host's.
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Whether `sink_input_properties=node.name=…` actually surfaces on the registry node on
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the deployed PipeWire build is **OPEN-Q 2**. Whether WirePlumber rejects the cycle or
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permits audible runaway feedback if the predicate does regress is **OPEN-Q 5**.
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## 5. Topology (Option A, still preferred — for a corrected reason)
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New host mode. Name TBD (§11); referred to here as *routed-desktop*.
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```
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eligible app streams ────► pixelpass_capture_<pid> ──► gst capture ──► viewers
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(routed by StreamRouter) │
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└─ local-monitor loopback ──► @DEFAULT_SINK@ ──► speakers
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▲
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peerspeak-tagged playback ──────────────────────────────────────────────┘
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(never routed; AEC, call, mpv, notifications)
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```
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- Capture null-sink as today.
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- **No** `@DEFAULT_SINK@.monitor → capture` loopback, ever, in this mode — that
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loopback *is* the echo. Unlike best-effort per-app mode there is no
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fallback-to-desktop path to oscillate.
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- Local monitor created **synchronously, before the first target move**, tagged and
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`sink_dont_move` per §4.3.
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**Option B (make a null-sink the system default) is still rejected — but v1's reason
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was wrong.** v1 argued a pixelpass crash leaves the desktop silent. Codex is right that
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this is unproven: pactl modules are owned by `pipewire-pulse` and *persist* past a
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pixelpass crash rather than vanishing, and WirePlumber selects a best-available sink
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when a configured default is absent.
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The real reason to reject B on this machine: it hijacks the global default sink, which
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directly conflicts with the user's `Ctrl+Meta+F` / `Ctrl+Meta+S` output-switch scripts.
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B would have to either fight the user's device choice or let new streams silently bypass
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the share. It also mutates system-wide state for unrelated clients and needs
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saved-default restoration plus idempotent crash repair.
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B's genuine advantages, recorded honestly: new apps land in the mix automatically, no
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registry-add race, and no sweeping up of arbitrary module playback legs.
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## 5.1 Option C — copy instead of move — ✅ **DECIDED: this supersedes Option A**
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> **STATUS 2026-07-20: feasibility spike RUN, Option C ADOPTED by both reviewers.**
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> Measurements: `~/Documents/handoff-docs/Claude/peerspeak/fanout-spike-results-2026-07-20.md`.
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> Codex ratification: `…/Codex/peerspeak/review-2026-07-20-fanout-spike-round4-ratification.md`.
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> Everything below in §5 (Option A/B), §6, §7 and §8.2–8.3 is **retained for the record
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> but is no longer the plan** — most of it describes problems Option C does not have.
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> **A v3 rewrite is owed once the AEC gate (§10, OPEN-Q 3) is settled.**
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>
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> Measured on this machine (PipeWire 1.6.8 / WirePlumber 0.5.15):
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> fan-out carries full-level audio (−24.1 dB, matching the speaker monitor) for
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> **paplay, mpv and VLC**; the app keeps its speaker link; WirePlumber does **not** reap
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> foreign links across default-sink switch, switch-back, suspend, resume, or 100 s
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> steady state; and non-lingering links are destroyed automatically when their owning
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> connection is **SIGKILLed**.
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> **Strongest result — destroying the capture sink mid-share left the application
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> playing to its speakers undisturbed.** Capture-side failure degrades to
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> "not captured," never to "the user's audio is broken."
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>
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> **Not yet proven** (do not overclaim these): fidelity beyond signal presence — equal
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> `mean_volume` on a sine cannot see xruns, drift or dropouts; daemon restart;
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> quantum/latency perturbation; sample-rate mismatch, surround, `port.exclusive`,
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> IEC958 passthrough; two concurrent capture sinks.
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> **Also still true:** the capture null sink is `pactl`-loaded and pipewire-pulse-owned
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> (`audio.rs:69`), so **Stop Share still leaks one null-sink module every time**.
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> Option C fixes stranded *desktop audio*, not the sink leak — §6's graceful stop is
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> still owed, and the capture sink should become connection-owned too.
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Codex's round-2 review made the strongest architectural point either review has
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produced: **the design is overbuilt because it *moves* audio that pixelpass only needs
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to *copy*.**
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PipeWire permits a node's output ports to link to more than one sink. So instead of
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reassigning `target.object` and dragging every desktop stream off the user's speakers,
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pixelpass creates a *second*, pixelpass-owned link from each eligible playback stream to
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the capture sink, leaving the existing speaker link untouched:
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```
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app output ──────────────────► existing hardware / filter path (untouched)
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└── pixelpass-owned link ──► capture sink ──► viewers
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```
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If those links are created with `object.linger=false`, they are owned by the pixelpass
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connection and **vanish when the process dies** — SIGKILL stops being catastrophic.
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This deletes, rather than solves, most of §6–§8:
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| Problem in the move-based design | Under copy |
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| --- | --- |
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| local-monitor loopback | not needed — audio never leaves the speakers |
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| added playback latency for the sharer | gone |
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| output-device switch mid-share (§8.2) | gone |
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| prior-target capture/restore (§7) | gone — nothing is retargeted |
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| pavucontrol conflicts | gone |
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| two hosts fighting over `target.object` (§8.3) | gone — links are independent |
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| stranded desktop audio after SIGKILL (§6) | gone with `object.linger=false` |
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It does **not** remove the eligibility/ownership problem (§4.2) — pixelpass still has to
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decide which streams to fan out. But the failure mode of a wrong decision drops from
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"we rewired or stranded your desktop" to "that stream wasn't captured," which is exactly
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the posture §4.2 is reaching for.
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**Known risks:** `port.exclusive` and passthrough streams may refuse fan-out; and the
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open question is whether **WirePlumber tears down foreign links** it did not create as
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part of its own policy management. That is the one thing that would kill Option C, and
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it is cheap to test.
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### 5.2 Eligibility under Option C — a broad guarded selector
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Because copying is cheap and non-destructive, the narrow allowlist of §4.2 is no longer
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justified — but "fan out everything and let mis-selection be harmless" is **also wrong**:
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selecting peerspeak-owned playback recreates self-echo, selecting the AEC leg recreates
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call echo, and a second link still participates in format/buffer negotiation, so it can
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perturb the source even though the original link survives.
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Agreed replacement:
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- Start from **all** `Stream/Output/Audio` nodes.
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- Exclude `peerspeak.owned` (§4.1).
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- Exclude the proven AEC identity (**OPEN-Q 3 — the remaining gate**).
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- Exclude pixelpass-owned objects and any graph path with capture ancestry (cycles).
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- Skip `port.exclusive`, encoded/passthrough, and already-owned links.
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- Create **per-port** links, **retain the Link proxies** for the session, and count a
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stream captured only once every required link reaches `ACTIVE`. In the Rust
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`pipewire` crate, dropping a proxy destroys the object — that is the ownership
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mechanism, and it is also what makes SIGKILL safe.
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- On failure: leave the original route untouched, report the stream as unsupported.
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`node.dont-move` drops out of the predicate entirely — fan-out is not a metadata move.
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### 5.3 Next gate
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**Load `module-echo-cancel` on the live graph and establish a stable, pixelpass-
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observable identity for its actual playback `Stream/Output/Audio` leg** — not merely the
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virtual sink — that survives unload/reload without PID guesswork. Then fan out an
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ordinary tone and demonstrate that remote-call audio is absent from the capture monitor.
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If no stable tag or module/group relationship exists, the AEC path must be redesigned
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before this feature proceeds. Both reviewers agree nothing belongs ahead of this.
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## 6. Graceful stop is a prerequisite, not a test case
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**Stop Share is currently `SIGKILL`.** `peerspeak/src/core/mod.rs:698` and `:3479` call
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Tokio `Child::kill()`, which on Unix is SIGKILL-plus-wait. So `Routing::cleanup`,
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`Cmd::Shutdown`, and `Drop` **never run on the normal stop path** — v1 treated this as
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an exotic crash scenario when it is the ordinary button.
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Today that strands one app. Under routed-desktop it would strand *every desktop stream*
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pointing at an orphan capture sink, on every single stop. This alone makes the feature
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unshippable without a lifecycle change.
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Required, in order:
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1. **A graceful control path in peerspeak** — SIGTERM (or a stdin command) with a
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bounded timeout, escalating to SIGKILL only on failure to exit.
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2. **pixelpass handling that signal** to run `Routing::cleanup` — currently there is no
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signal handler on this path. **OPEN-Q 7.**
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3. **Cleanup that confirms rather than assumes** — the current path writes
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`target.object` clears without inspecting `set_property`'s result or waiting for a
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core sync/done before quitting (`audio.rs:494-512`).
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4. **`--repair` extended** to understand this mode. Its current scope is dead-PID
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modules only (`pixelpass/src/repair.rs:15-63`); it must also clear or restore
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routing state and stay safe with a second live host.
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## 7. Restore, don't clear
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The router sets `target.object` to `None` on shutdown, which returns a stream to
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following the default. Any stream the user had *deliberately pinned* to another device
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loses that pin. In per-app mode that was one app; here it is the whole desktop.
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The prior value must be captured before the move and restored on cleanup. This is state
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the current router does not keep.
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Related: `node.dont-move=true` streams will not move at all, and `node.dont-reconnect` /
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`node.dont-fallback` streams may error or die rather than fall back when the capture
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sink vanishes. The predicate must detect these and report per-node outcome instead of
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counting requested moves as routed. **OPEN-Q 4.**
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## 8. Remaining risks
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1. **Latency now applies to everything.** All desktop audio traverses
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capture-sink → loopback → hardware at `latency_msec=20`. That is a real regression
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for rhythm games and monitoring, paid by the sharer. Whether 20 ms is right for this
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mode, or whether `node.latency` should be driven lower, is open.
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2. **Output-device switching mid-share — release-blocking.** The local monitor resolves
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`@DEFAULT_SINK@` once at module load (`audio.rs:139-151`) with no default-metadata
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listener. Switching output mid-share strands the sharer's *entire routed desktop* on
|
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the old device. **This is a genuine pre-existing defect that already hurts per-app
|
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mode**; this feature raises its blast radius from one app to everything. Must ship
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with a tested retarget/reload — or an enforced "restart the share after switching
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output" limitation.
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3. **Two hosts cannot coexist.** Both routers write the same `target.object` key on
|
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every eligible stream; last writer wins, and stopping one can clear the other's
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target. Either serialize routed-desktop hosts behind a per-user lock with a clear
|
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error, or build ownership/generation tokens. The exclusion namespace must cover
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*all* pixelpass-owned loopbacks, not just this host's.
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4. **"What the sharer hears" is not what viewers get.** The capture sink sees stream
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volume but not the hardware sink's mute/volume, per-device DSP, or spatial
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processing. A sharer can mute their speakers and viewers still receive full-level
|
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audio. UX wording must be "eligible desktop application audio," not "everything you
|
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hear."
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5. **Startup race.** `try_flush` acts only once both sink serial and `default` metadata
|
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are bound; before that, streams are unrouted — viewers get silence, which is the safe
|
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direction, but the front-end should say so. Note `Routing::start` returns before any
|
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readiness acknowledgement and router-thread failure is only logged
|
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(`audio.rs:439-446`), so the host can report success while viewers get permanent
|
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silence.
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6. **Idle nodes are not gone nodes.** `handle_global_remove` fires only on global
|
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destruction (`audio.rs:601-620`), so a paused app stays counted as routed. State
|
||
events based on it are approximate.
|
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7. **Stale prerequisites.** The router cannot rebind `sink_serial` / `default_metadata`
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if either disappears, so a pipewire-pulse or WirePlumber restart leaves it alive and
|
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inert.
|
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8. **Pre-existing type bug.** `object.serial` is 64-bit in PipeWire but parsed as `u32`
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(`audio.rs:534-540`). Global IDs are reused; serial is the recommended stable
|
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identifier. Worth fixing before the router grows.
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||
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## 9. Capability negotiation
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|
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v1 cited `src/core/messages.rs:503` as capability negotiation. It is not — that file
|
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only defines the `AudioAppsListed` UI event. Actual detection is a `pixelpass --help`
|
||
substring probe (`src/screenshare/mod.rs:245-278`, invoked at `src/core/mod.rs:3368`).
|
||
|
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A help-token probe is an acceptable continuation of the existing pattern, but this
|
||
feature must **not** overload `app_audio_supported: bool`. Strict per-app and
|
||
routed-desktop are independent capabilities; a pixelpass build may have one and not the
|
||
other. Model them separately (enum or bitset), name the exact new probe token, and
|
||
define the fallback UX when it is absent.
|
||
|
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## 10. What must be measured before implementing
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|
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**Nothing in §4.2's predicate can be finalized without this.** A `pw-dump` of this
|
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machine with peerspeak in a call (AEC on), mpv playing a viewed share, a notification
|
||
sound firing, and representative browser/game streams:
|
||
|
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| # | Question | Resolves |
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||
| --- | --- | --- |
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| OPEN-Q 1 | What properties distinguish ordinary app playback from infrastructure legs? | §4.2 predicate |
|
||
| OPEN-Q 2 | Does `sink_input_properties=node.name=…` surface on the registry node? | §4.3 tag |
|
||
| OPEN-Q 3 | Can `module-echo-cancel` legs carry a tag from `pactl load-module`? If not, what identifies them? (node names are PID-stamped: `echo_cancel.rs:80-82`) | §4.1 row 4 |
|
||
| OPEN-Q 4 | Real fallback behaviour per stream class when the capture sink vanishes — graceful vs SIGKILL | §7 |
|
||
| OPEN-Q 5 | Does WirePlumber reject the capture-monitor cycle, or is it audible feedback? | §4.3 |
|
||
| OPEN-Q 6 | Does `PIPEWIRE_PROPS` / `PULSE_PROP` env tagging actually land on mpv/VLC/pw-play nodes? | **✅ RESOLVED POSITIVELY — measured, see below** |
|
||
| OPEN-Q 7 | Does pixelpass currently handle SIGTERM at all on the host path? | **✅ RESOLVED: no** — only `tokio::signal::ctrl_c()` (SIGINT), `pixelpass/src/common/signal.rs:6`. Use SIGINT, not SIGTERM, for the graceful path in §6 |
|
||
| OPEN-Q 8 | `@DEFAULT_SINK@` behaviour with the user's real hotkey scripts, old sink still present | §8.2 |
|
||
|
||
### 10.1 OPEN-Q 6 — MEASURED 2026-07-20 on this machine
|
||
|
||
Codex's round-2 review asserted this was "resolved negatively — environment inheritance
|
||
is not a backend-independent ownership contract; the redesign collapses as written,"
|
||
on the grounds that `PULSE_PROP` is undocumented and "absent from the installed libpulse
|
||
binaries."
|
||
|
||
**That is factually wrong and the experiment disproves it.** `PULSE_PROP` and
|
||
`PULSE_PROP_OVERRIDE` are both present in `/usr/lib/pulseaudio/libpulsecommon-17.0.so`
|
||
(where `pa_proplist_update_from_environment` lives; `libpulse.so.0` links it), and the
|
||
tag reaches the graph for every player peerspeak actually spawns:
|
||
|
||
| Client | Backend | Env used | `peerspeak.owned` on the node |
|
||
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
|
||
| `paplay` | Pulse-emulated | `PULSE_PROP` | **`1`** ✅ |
|
||
| `mpv` | default ao | `PULSE_PROP` + `PIPEWIRE_PROPS` | **`1`** ✅ |
|
||
| `vlc` (LibVLC 3.0.23) | `client.api=pipewire-pulse` | `PULSE_PROP` | **`1`** ✅ |
|
||
|
||
Method: play a 12 s 48 kHz tone under each client with the env set, then
|
||
`pw-dump | jq` the `Stream/Output/Audio` nodes. VLC on this box has no native PipeWire
|
||
aout (`/usr/lib/vlc/plugins/audio_output/` = dummy, file, alsa, amem, pulse) — Codex is
|
||
right about that — but it is irrelevant, because its Pulse output goes through libpulse
|
||
and `PULSE_PROP` is honoured there.
|
||
|
||
**So §4.1's ownership model stands for the three spawned-child cases.** Codex's *other*
|
||
objection to it — that the tag is client-controlled and spoofable, so it is a
|
||
correctness mechanism and explicitly **not** a security boundary — is correct and is
|
||
now stated as such in §4.1.
|
||
|
||
**Also measured, and it corrects both prior reviews:** `application.process.id` on the
|
||
`paplay` node was **paplay's own PID (192571)**, not pipewire-pulse's. Codex asserted
|
||
the pipewire-pulse claim in round 1, then retracted it in round 2; the retraction is
|
||
right. The server-PID warning belongs to `pipewire.sec.pid` (which was *absent* on
|
||
these nodes). PID remains untrusted and may be missing or overridden, so it stays a
|
||
fallback signal — but it was dismissed too aggressively in v1 and v2.
|
||
|
||
**Still genuinely open: OPEN-Q 3, the AEC playback leg**, which is the one owned-audio
|
||
path that cannot inherit an environment tag because pactl loads it inside
|
||
`pipewire-pulse`. Codex reports the Pulse-compat `module-echo-cancel` exposes only
|
||
`sink_properties` (populating the virtual sink, not the playback stream), so the options
|
||
are: load the *native* module instead, correlate the four legs by module/group identity,
|
||
or redesign the AEC target. **Not yet verified on this machine** — verifying it requires
|
||
loading the module on the live graph.
|
||
|
||
## 11. Naming — the user's call
|
||
|
||
Everything here is a placeholder. Candidates for the pixelpass mode:
|
||
`--audio-mode=desktop-routed`, `--audio-mode=desktop-excluding`. Internal selector:
|
||
`--exclude-audio-tag=<tag>`. Do **not** surface `--exclude-pid` — it names an
|
||
unreliable mechanism and reads like process control.
|
||
|
||
peerspeak picker wording: something like "System audio except peerspeak," with a note
|
||
that call and watched-share playback are excluded. Whether "All system audio" stays
|
||
alongside it (with a stated echo risk) or is replaced when the capability is present is
|
||
a product decision.
|
||
|
||
## 12. Testing
|
||
|
||
Pure and unit-testable, PipeWire at the edges, per house style:
|
||
|
||
- `fn eligibility(node_props, &Ownership) -> Eligibility` — allowlist semantics, with
|
||
`NotEligible { reason }` so status can explain itself. Cases: peerspeak tag present;
|
||
AEC leg; own local-monitor node name; another host's local monitor; `dont-move`;
|
||
non-`Stream/Output/Audio`; missing props; the capture sink itself.
|
||
- Pure module-argument construction for both loopbacks, asserting the §4.3 tag and
|
||
`sink_dont_move`.
|
||
- Pure prior-target capture/restore logic (§7).
|
||
- Pure capability-probe parsing (§9).
|
||
|
||
Field tests — the only thing that can prove a viewer does not hear themselves:
|
||
|
||
1. Sharer in a call while sharing, AEC on **and** off.
|
||
2. Sharer simultaneously *viewing* another share while sharing.
|
||
3. Lifecycle, each separately: Stop button, room leave, UI crash, pixelpass panic,
|
||
SIGTERM, SIGINT, SIGKILL, last-viewer disconnect, pipewire-pulse restart,
|
||
`pixelpass --repair`.
|
||
4. Output-device switch mid-share via the real hotkey scripts.
|
||
5. Two concurrent hosts (second pixelpass CLI, second peerspeak instance).
|
||
6. A notification sound firing mid-share.
|
||
7. Sample-rate/channel/passthrough behaviour on real sinks; CPU and latency cost of
|
||
routing the whole desktop.
|
||
|
||
## 13. Open decisions for the reviewer
|
||
|
||
1. Is tag-inheritance (§4.1) sound as the ownership contract, and is OPEN-Q 6 the right
|
||
thing to gate the whole design on?
|
||
2. Is allowlist-eligibility (§4.2) the right risk posture, given it means some app audio
|
||
silently won't be shared until its shape is recognized?
|
||
3. Is the graceful-stop work (§6) properly a prerequisite commit, or does it land inside
|
||
this feature?
|
||
4. Should the two pre-existing defects (§8.2 output switching, §8.8 `object.serial`)
|
||
be split into their own tasks ahead of this?
|
||
5. Is there a materially simpler design that meets Joe's ask that both reviews have
|
||
missed?
|