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<p align="center" style="margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: 200%"><font face="Times New Roman, serif">Technobabble
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<p align="center" style="margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: 200%"><font face="Times New Roman, serif">Northern
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<font face="Times New Roman, serif"> Sigmund Freud and Neil Postman
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have many theories relating to civilization and technology. In Neil
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Surrender of Culture to Technology has quite a bit to say on the
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relationship between civilization and technology. Sigmund Freud in
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growth of civilization and also touches on how technology has an
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<p align="left" style="margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: 200%"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"> In
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“The Judgement of Thamus,” Postman touches on the idea that
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technology is neither good nor bad for society, but that it is both
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good and bad. It adds as well as detracts from culture. This chapter
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opens with him discussing the story of the king Thamus talking to the
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god Theuth, an inventor. Theuth had creating writing and he was happy
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to expose how amazing the technology is and how much it will benefit
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man kind. Theuth spoke of the wonders of storing and sharing wisdom
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and memory through this invention. Thamus countered him by stating
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that an inventor is inherently biased towards his invention. Thamus
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believed that this invention of writing will encourage people to stop
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recollection. He further complains that writing will help wisdom and
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memory spread, which isn’t inherently bad, but by doing so, people
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who do not fully understand the wisdom of the words without proper
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instruction, they will be “filled with the conceit of wisdom
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instead of real wisdom” (Postman, 1993). As we know, writing has
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opened up an incredible amount of opportunity for humanity, but it is
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also clear that we have lost some things, such as memory, but the
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gains have been immense. Postman also claims that technology really
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needs to be looked at from both sides. He even admits that he often
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looks for the dissenting opinion when looking at new technologies,
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but feels that it is important to show reasonable counter to
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optimism. Furthermore, he finds that technologies are often adopted
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without much realization and results in new technologies, the
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winners, beckoning people of old technology, the losers, to join in
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with them. Espousing all the benefits of the new versus the old.</font></p>
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Civilization and its Discontents Freud tries to explain some of the
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actions of why people do what they do, how people have come to how
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they are, and, especially, how to obtain the happiness that people
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seek. Throughout this work Freud makes many claims. He finds that
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people evolve much like cities. Over the course of time, cities are
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demolished, burned down, or simply destroyed and rebuilt slowly over
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time during peace. He specifically mentions how ancient cities that
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still exist are largely built upon ruins of itself. Some of these
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things go away completely, but most stay either hidden or adapted
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into the works and buildings that go on in the city. These things
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become something new, yet maintain something old. He says this in
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human memories and physiology. He explains how puberty results in the
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loss of the thymus gland and that it is replaced by connective
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that had been there before it, and how new experiences and,
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specifically, memories of experiences merge and form new thoughts
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that bring people to who they are at the present. Much like cities.
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Freud also found that, however civilization is defined, protections
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its own civilization. This seems particularly interesting given the
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fact that we know it is true, at least at a basic level. For example,
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civilization started herding animals that lead to the creation of,
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and increased spread of, new diseases which we then needed to protect
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ourselves against ("Humans Change the World", 2016). Freud
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how if certain technology didn’t get created, other technology
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wouldn’t be needed to maintain happiness. If the locomotive never
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carried people across continents, people would likely have stayed
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closer to home more often which would remove the need for long
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friends and family. One thing Freud seemed especially insistent about
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is that technology brings people closer to godlihood. To make a
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primal example, the discovery and control of fire brought <font face="Times New Roman, serif">the
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for beauty is a bit of a mystery. He also claims that cleanliness is
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also not found in nature, yet humans seem to have a passion for that,
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order to be incredibly useful for everything that humans do, yet
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a “good and bad” issue. This, to me, is clearly obvious. We see
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person who understood what was actually going on. This alone could be
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huge database of jobs where we can find anything we want, anywhere in
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the world, and, if we desire and have the ability, take that job and
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move to wherever it is. Wonderful, but a huge drawback is the
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increased competition. A company may have settled for a local worker
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contribute in some way.</font></p>
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<p align="left" style="margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: 200%"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"> beauty
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||||||
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